[Bug 12649] New: Restore previous operation drag function

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[Bug 12649] New: Restore previous operation drag function

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            Bug ID: 12649
           Summary: Restore previous operation drag function
    Classification: Xfce
           Product: Thunar
           Version: 1.6.10
          Hardware: PC (x86_64)
                OS: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: Medium
         Component: core
          Assignee: [hidden email]
          Reporter: [hidden email]
        QA Contact: [hidden email]
                CC: [hidden email], [hidden email]
  Target Milestone: 1.8.0

I have just upgraded from Ubuntu Studio 14.04 to 16.04 and thus from Thunar
1.6.3 to 1.6.10 and some of the basic operation has changed making it a far
less smooth experience to that which I am used to.

Namely it is no longer possible to drag a selection of files from starting over
the file, or over the filename field in List or Detailed List view. I always
use Detailed list and this includes not working when on space with no text but
falling within this field. This was possible with 1.6.3, where you would have
to click a second time to drag a single file (so I can see some people may
prefer the new way but to not leave the old method as an option in Preferences
is really short-sighted!)

Then there is the fact you can no longer do a rmb mouse drag and get the
context menu for copy/move/link/cancel. This is something I used more rarely
but definitely use on occasion (mostly when wanting to make a simple link
quickly, now you either have to use the command line, or right click and send
link to Desktop and then Cut and Paste it from the Desktop to your required
location, Really clunky!) If you could add a slider to select time before
context menu appears and you can still drag (I would guess the old operation
was somewhere in the region of 0.2s and was fine to me, new default could be
0.0s and be like current.)

Finally didn't it used to be a user option where to have the filename column
auto-extend as you navigated folders? This seems to have gone with it always
doing so. I admit I do generally prefer it to extend to fit full filename in
but this in itself makes the first mentioned problem even more annoying as it
often pushes the space dragging can be started from off the edge of my window.

In all these changes have forced me to downgrade to 1.6.3 package used in 14.04
as although it has bugs I know and am used to these bugs and the basic
operation of the program is far far better!

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--- Comment #1 from Dale <[hidden email]> ---
The Automatically Expand Column option I have found under the Configure Columns
menu so that point can be ignored. Sorry I don't think I can edit the post once
I've submitted it, unless I'm missing something.

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--- Comment #2 from [hidden email] ---
Having finally bitten the bullet and yesterday upgraded to Xubuntu 16.04 from
14.04, I can confirm the loss of right-click drag-and-drop, and also the loss
of "rectangle select".

To add to the above, the functions both work in "View as Icons" and "View as
Compact List". Where they fail is in "View as Detailed List", which is what I
use all the time.

Workaround are thus:

1. Click-shiftclick to select a range (instead of rectangle select)
2. Ctrl-leftclick-drag to select a range (causes rectangle select to work, but
has to start on an item, not on whitespace)
3. Shift-left-drag to force a move (bypassing the Copy/Move/Link popup menu
you'd expect on a right-drag)
4. Change the view every time you want to perform a relevant action (which is
clumsy, to say the least)

Kernel: 4.4.0-78-generic
Distro: (X)Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS (Xenial)
xfce4-about: 4.12
Thunar Help-about: 1.6.11

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--- Comment #3 from Prof Yaffle <[hidden email]> ---
Belay that comment... "functionality as intended".

Please see this commit:

https://github.com/xfce-mirror/thunar/commit/bb9fe8ad3e2202be52fa5c987cb1a7744d20a0a6

And I quote...

"When using the right mouse button, clicking on the first column of an item
will always select it and pop up the context menu of the item. Clicking on
another column of an unselected item will unselect all items and show the menu
of the folder, while clicking on another column of a selected item will show
the context menu for that item (or those items)."

In other words:

1. If you right-click on the name of an item, you'll get the context menu. If
you want to drag, you can't.

2. If you want to drag with default action (copy/move, depending on whether
it's between or within partitions), left-click and drag.

3. If you want to drag with the action menu (copy/move/link), right-click not
on the name field but on *any other column* of an item/selection.

4. Rubber-banding/"rectangle select" is the same. You can force it with ctrl,
but it is otherwise disabled from the first column; instead, start the
selection in *any other column*.

Hopefully, Google will pick this up and help other people, as there are
confused users out there and this really isn't clear from the documentation:

https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/working-with-files-and-folders

Search hints:

Xubuntu Xenial 16.04 XFCE
drag drop
right click
move files
bulk move

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--- Comment #4 from Dale <[hidden email]> ---
I often can't see the other columns  on my small laptop screen. My bug very
clearly states it is from the Name column it has stopped working from this
version only. This is something that I rely on so much that I have manually
installed 1.6.3 and held back any Thunar updates to keep it working! As
Intended when the new functionality really isn't helpful just isn't good
enough.

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